All Elite Wrestling

All Elite Wrestling

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Roxxxas wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:37 pm
-mp- wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:49 pm What the fuck is this creepy shit

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I mean, you could listen to the 5-10 minutes before whatever that timestamp is for the context.

Also, that was about early to mid last year iirc, because there was a stir up then and it went away as it tends to do because people just go with clickbait.
Okay, explain to me the context of making baseless accusations about Kenny and Riho, then sending their “thoughts, Jim?” zombie army after her until she quits social media. Because I’m not listening to that kind of hate, ever.
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I love Jim Cornette. He is smarter than every single other person in the wrestling business and understands wrestling in ways no one else out there does, because he’s done it all. Photographer, manager, part of creative teams, booker, promoter, trainer, announcer. He knows all about the foundation the wrestling business was built on and historical context of the business, worked with some of the greatest minds and talents in the history of the business and because he’s seen first hand how to put asses in seats on a weekly basis. He was there when talent needed to do things to keep the fans coming back weekly like have hot angles and matches that didn’t insult the intelligence of the fan base. There were no guaranteed contracts back then so he knows and understands first hand what needs to be done to keep fans invested in the promotion and the wrestlers. He knows what type of heat is the right and wrong type of heat. I share a lot of his views about what is right and wrong with today’s wrestling business, lack of selling, spamming moves for the sake of moves, wrestlers doing too much without registering what’s happening, needless tables and what should be hospitalization angles on a multiple times per night basis, lack of psychology (which is SUPER important to me as it was my favorite part about wrestling when I was doing it, the WHY behind how you move, what you do, when you do it, how to do it for maximum effect, etc) but with that being said…

I can’t defend some of the stuff he says.

I don’t like when he makes fun of women’s appearances. It’s not a thing I do in my personally life so it makes me uncomfortable. I dislike when he makes horse jokes about Aubrey Edwards. I hate when he calls Nia Jax a refrigerator. Yeah, Aubrey is a strange referee and does really awkward fucking stances and is very “look at me” but she doesn’t deserve to have her appearance mocked, that shit is just bullying for the sake of bullying. And Nia is not as bad as Jim and Brian say, Jim just piles on the insults for the people he doesn’t like.

I’m not a fan of Riho for the reason that she’s so tiny and it’s professional wrestling. For me, it just isn’t believable enough. That’s all I’ve got to say on that subject, because that’s exactly how I feel and by saying that I’ve said all I have to about it to explain the way I personally feel. I don’t think she needs to be mocked and derided and treated like she’s the worst thing ever, because she’s not. But Jim has taken his criticism and bullying too far on too many, multiple occasions. Implying that Kenny is gay constantly, you KNOW he’s dying to call him gay slurs but he’s aware enough of societal changes that he doesn’t say them on his shows. But I feel him desperately wanting to say the F word referring to Kenny. Idgaf what Kenny Omega does with his free time. I hope he’s happy with whoever he’s in love with because we all deserve happiness in our relationships free of criticism from people who are outside of the situation and free from judgment.

Jim is a bully. Jim is an asshole. Jim is likely bipolar and could potentially have a personality disorder. I’d love to be able to pick his brain on his feelings about everything and come up with a diagnosis to know what’s wrong with him sometimes. It’d make more sense to know WHY he’s a bully and an asshole than to just expect him not to be one at this point.
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-mp- wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:50 pm
Roxxxas wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:37 pm
-mp- wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:49 pm What the fuck is this creepy shit

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I mean, you could listen to the 5-10 minutes before whatever that timestamp is for the context.

Also, that was about early to mid last year iirc, because there was a stir up then and it went away as it tends to do because people just go with clickbait.
Okay, explain to me the context of making baseless accusations about Kenny and Riho, then sending their “thoughts, Jim?” zombie army after her until she quits social media. Because I’m not listening to that kind of hate, ever.
The cult does as the cult does, Corny isn’t giving marching orders out to harass people. Except maybe Republicans :lol:
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This thread is a reminder of why I've pretty much tuned Cornette out these days.

In other news, leaks of the new Dynamite stage are out there and I like it a lot better than the walls of led screens they've been using the past year or so. Entrances have been a pixelated mess on cable streams and hurt the presentation, so I'm glad they're going back to the tunnels.
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He’s smarter than every other person about the wrestling business and he hasn’t had success in it in how many decades now? Huh? Or are we talking about the 1970s wrestling business
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Since Covid he’s sworn off appearances basically, so talking about the business and selling his own merch keeping him financially secure seems successful enough to me.

I believe he’s working to the extent that he’s amplifying his opinions for entertainment value but there’s still a core to it. The co-host on the other hand is an egotistical mark that thinks being around the people who have actually been in the business means he knows what he’s talking about :lol:
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Have we not seen Starks and Big Bill since they lost the tag belts?
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GardenStateSaint wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:39 pm Have we not seen Starks and Big Bill since they lost the tag belts?
Correct.
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So Kevin Kelly was fired for going on a conspiratorial rant on Twitter and making slander claims against Ian Riccoboni
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Azmodeous wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:05 am So Kevin Kelly was fired for going on a conspiratorial rant on Twitter and making slander claims against Ian Riccoboni
Good. He was a bad hire from day 1.
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Azmodeous wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:05 am So Kevin Kelly was fired for going on a conspiratorial rant on Twitter and making slander claims against Ian Riccoboni
What were the claims? I'm late to the story.
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GardenStateSaint wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:53 pm
Azmodeous wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:05 am So Kevin Kelly was fired for going on a conspiratorial rant on Twitter and making slander claims against Ian Riccoboni
What were the claims? I'm late to the story.
Kelly claims Ian was going around telling people Kevin was a conspiracy nut and that he believed in some Q-Anon stuff.
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Azmodeous wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:11 pm
GardenStateSaint wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:53 pm
Azmodeous wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:05 am So Kevin Kelly was fired for going on a conspiratorial rant on Twitter and making slander claims against Ian Riccoboni
What were the claims? I'm late to the story.
Kelly claims Ian was going around telling people Kevin was a conspiracy nut and that he believed in some Q-Anon stuff.
That gets him fired but Sammy was Andrade’s punching bag and couldn’t get a pink slip
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For fuck’s sake lads, I know you’re twitter averse but it’s all right there (and below)

https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/stat ... 8383311106

This was the weekend of Sting’s retirement that he chose to make about himself. What it has to do with Sammy Guevara is beyond me.
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-mp- wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm For fuck’s sake lads, I know you’re twitter averse but it’s all right there (and below)

https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/stat ... 8383311106

This was the weekend of Sting’s retirement that he chose to make about himself. What it has to do with Sammy Guevara is beyond me.
I think that point was more to Andrade wanting to be fired but I’m with ya on Kevins tweets. He is an idiot. Seemed like he didnt wanna be there from day 1.
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I hate releases, it's never a good thing when someone loses their job, but it stinks worse when they're out with an injury.
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Probably the best thing you can do is ignore and put on the best show you can after that Punk interview (no one is going to be talking about it by the weekend) and that Edge promo was pushing it as long as that was it. If they put Jack Perry in the new Elite and start dredging the incident up every week, I'm not going to be a fan of it at all...
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Azmodeous wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:32 pm Probably the best thing you can do is ignore and put on the best show you can after that Punk interview (no one is going to be talking about it by the weekend) and that Edge promo was pushing it as long as that was it. If they put Jack Perry in the new Elite and start dredging the incident up every week, I'm not going to be a fan of it at all...
Bucks made 2 perry references tonight in their entrance and post match. So yeah….its coming…

I just want to move on from this on all fronts. As much as I am Team Punk and am not gonna like Bucks/Perry ever again, i’m over hearing about it and wanna move on as a fan.
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Azmodeous wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:36 am I hate releases, it's never a good thing when someone loses their job, but it stinks worse when they're out with an injury.
Yeah this was a bad precedent since they havent done this before. I dont get what happened with Stu especially this time around. Anthony Henry was a good hire so to fire him esp. after just breaking his jaw is a bad look.
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Iamspiderman wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:50 pm
Azmodeous wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:32 pm Probably the best thing you can do is ignore and put on the best show you can after that Punk interview (no one is going to be talking about it by the weekend) and that Edge promo was pushing it as long as that was it. If they put Jack Perry in the new Elite and start dredging the incident up every week, I'm not going to be a fan of it at all...
Bucks made 2 perry references tonight in their entrance and post match. So yeah….its coming…

I just want to move on from this on all fronts. As much as I am Team Punk and am not gonna like Bucks/Perry ever again, i’m over hearing about it and wanna move on as a fan.
I'm in the camp of no one handled this well and TK should have put the kibosh on this long ago before it ever got to this point. Like I said though, the less they acknowledge it the better it is for their locker room morale, so bringing Perry back in a role that's designed to basically bring it up every time he's on screen is going to make the company look like they can't get over it and the Bucks look petty. That Copeland promo should be the beginning and the end of their reaction to this, but I'm afraid it isn't.
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